This week the question has been firmly put. Should there be more Nazis on television or less, or for the grammar pedants out there, fuhrer?
All right. That’s a really bad joke. The point is that so many people including journalists have got this horribly wrong.
Cotterill needs to be confronted, subjected to scrutiny and forensically cross-examined.
What to call him then? The media has cobbled together several terms, all of them fairly unhelpful, including activist, patriot and ultra-right wing extremist. On Channel 7 he was described as one member of a group who were planning to put “a neighbourhood watch group together”.
Let’s start with what he is. Mr Cottrell is a violent criminal, having been convicted of arson, stalking, aggravated burglary, trafficking in steroids and breaching interventions orders. He added racial vilification to his rap sheet earlier this year.
Full column here.
You say in your full blog, Mr. Insider and I quote: “The meek treatment of Cottrell and his violent agenda was a shambles but his ban from Sky News should be lifted. What is the point of it? He can turn up anywhere else and has.”. I agree 100% lets hear these scoundrels in this free speech Society, that havnt much to say so nothing lost. Banning and Press Censorship a slippery slope to losing our Democratic Freedoms imho.
I was referring to the decision to ban him from Sky News in that instance.
This Cotterell character was also filmed harassing a children’s entertainer in Federation Square in Melbourne accusing him of being a paedophile. Mothers were crying and the children were obviously afraid and yet the police did nothing. As for Adam Giles, hopefully his media career is over and he goes back to his day job working with Gina. He is still roundly despised in the Northern Territory, not just because his government were hopeless, but because of some dubious behavior in his personal life. I have heard that Sky “news” is good during the day but after dark their audience diminishes to very low figures indeed…..except of course the poor folk flying business class with both Qantas and Virgin.
Mothers upset & kids frightened…Do you know why did the police did nothing Penny?
I would think that he’s at least a public nuisance.
Victoria Police have pretty much a do nothing policy these days on anything controversial. Their leadership gave drunk the Daniel Andrews kool aid.
Then that’s poor policing imo.
What kind of officer turns their back on scared children mate?
Bella, a good friend of mine who has quite a high profile in Victoria as an ex-priest, an ex ABC employee and current forensic pshycologist posted the video on Facebook which I found quite distressing. This Cotterell was shown to walk through quite a few Melbourne streets being filmed by his followers saying that he was”going after this poofter in a pink outfit entertaining innocent kiddies”. When he got there he pushed the guy around accusing him of being a paedophile, much to the enjoyment of his followers. The police also appeared in this video doing absolutely nothing and also exchanging indulgent smiles amongst each other. And as I said mothers were crying and their children were scared. The entertainer was absolutely terrified. It’s one of the worst things I’ve seen in quite some time. When I asked my friend why he had posted it, he just said we have to call these people out…..I personally can’t believe that we as Australians are condoning this.
Plenty of mothers and kids being frightened by other after dark goings-on in Vic too. But of course those regular terrifying occurrences are brushed aside as figments of imagination by those who simulate support for social equality and egalitarianism.
I’d want to know a bit more about witness K before I totally made up my mind. What I can say is he or she signed some pretty significant paperwork with regard to who and what they could talk about when they joined ASIS. The Inspector General of intelligence is where his complaint should have sat not a journalist. It’s been my experience most, but not all, whistleblower’s move to altruism germinates from internal disenfranchisement with their particular agency. This generally centres around, lack of promotion, petty office politics or some such similar matter. Who knows, witness K may be the rare real deal. If they are they still went about things the wrong way.
I actually have no problem with any countries intelligence services conducting operations against another country to gain an economic advantage. In fact that’s what I pay my taxes for.
Let’s be clear. If an individual or corporation did what the Aust Gov did in East Timor in 2004, they would be facing very serious criminal charges. He did complain to the I-G and lost his job not long afterwards. He did not leak to a journalist. He offered to give evidence at the International Court of Justice. He and his lawyer had their homes raided, documents seized and passports withheld. He was a senior officer but regardless of his motivations, the Gov (it is believed A-G Brandis provided the consent required to the CDPP) is intent on punishing him with criminal charges despite the imbroglio with T-L now being resolved. Ditto his lawyer, a former ACT A-G. This was a case of international theft and fraud which provided significant benefit to a corporation and also to govt ministers who after retirement went on to this corporation’s payroll, both Liberal and Labor. There are few if any national interest considerations. At face level it is the sort of corruption we might expect in western Africa. I don’t pay my taxes to facilitate the Aust Gov running around committing crimes.
As I said I wanted to know more about the matter. You have furnished me with that information and I appreciate it. If the business regarding govt ministers is true and I have no reason to doubt you then that’s horrendous.
What I can say is that DFAT will do everything they can to keep matters in house. There is something more happenning here and it might be as simple as a pissing competition between AG’s and them.
It’s not DFAT. It’s now in the great, gaping maw that is the A-G’s dept. Take a look at the whole story. It is a disgrace.
I will mate.
I’ll be very interested come trial what DFAT will be allow to be lead. In the end they’ll have the say. 5 I’s depends on it. I know what you’re saying JTI but if DFAT aren’t onside, and who knows they may be. If they’re not AG’s will have to suck it up. Someone was blindsided on this I reckon.
DFAT will be very uncomfortable about it. They begrudgingly own ASIS and the diplomat side of the house would love to divest themselves of the ‘necessary evil’. Meanwhile the newest ‘gaping maw’, Home Affairs sits on the sidelines. I have personally witnessed, in the last fortnight, the internecine war which is currently being fought there. Things won’t end well.
Razor, seriously? You’re OK with China, Russia USA, Indian governments conducting operations against Australia to gain an economic advantage? Any caveats or limits at all, or its it just OK for us and no one else to do these things?
JB,
Of course I’m ok with it. Why? Because they are already doing it. It’s up to our internal security agencies to thwart it and for us to gain every advantage we can. It’s a dog eat dog world old bean.
Answer the question. Do you have any caveats or limits to what is acceptable behaviour against Australia? Criminal activity fine with you is it?
Get real JB, spooks don’t go to Sunday school me old mate.
I didn’t suggest they did. The question is whether you’re OK with it or not, and how much are you OK with it.
For instance is it OK for a rogue government to collude with another nation in murdering it’s own citizens in order to justify a war of aggression leaving possibly millions dead and countries destroyed so as to control the price of oil ?
Razor – previous blog
What drivel from old Ian Macfarlane, is that all he’s got?
Must’ve taken someone else’s smarts to google the components of our flagship MV Steve Irwin to come up with this tosh.
He & the Resources Canavan Council are just using the only thing the FibNats ever do, which is deflecting the blame.
They are so completely disconnected from the reality of why Sea Shepherd exists at all. We long for a time when we don’t have to.
For his information, the Steve Irwin is a recycled vessel, not built by us & we do use diesel fuel because there’s no alternative when we’re chasing down illegal operators at sea.
We exist to protect our oceans from illegal, unregulated & unreported fishing vessels & we facilitate many arrests around the globe.
You just don’t hear about our great success in shutting down those operators by working alongside the relevant authorities.
The GBR campaign has received massive support all the way, so personally mate, I hope that IM & the rest of his scared black-coal-hats
will keep bagging Sea Shepherd because the will of the majority of Australians is on our side. We choose coral not coal.
The polling shows the majority of Australians are on your side regarding whaling. Not so with coal.
Can you show this polling Razor, I would be interested as to who conducted these pools about coal being favoured by the majority of Australians.
The guardian no less…..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/16/voters-split-on-whether-coalition-should-build-new-coal-plants-or-stop-closures
I don’t agree mate.
Is this ship made out of old milk bottles and Maccas chip cartons?
Jack, I can’t decide which is funnier – Boris’s “letterbox”, or Mark Knight’s ‘Jacinta’ cartoon. Does that make me PC or non-PC. Help!
Non, I think. Pretty sure. I didn’t think much of Mark’s toon and Boris has form with the race based insults.
Hi Jack, As an exile from the UK I have been surprised by some Austalians’ casual approach to Nazis. Perhaps distance is an excuse but anyone who has studied the historical evidence knows where certain ideologies lead. As a biologist I know that we are all one race and to deny otherwise is to display ignorance. How have we come to this?
Hi Christine. I saw some comments which said Nazism was akin to socialism. It’s not. It’s an ideology based entirely on race. Race brings privilege or the lack of it, so they say. It’s important to call these people out because they are not as overt as they once were. Now they speak about banning Muslim immigration or African immigration or maintaining Australia’s culture because they know it will resonate with some. Now they call themselves patriots not Nazis. It is opportunism. Once you scrape away the attempt at populism, the anti-Semitism surfaces. Cottrell himself has written recently he will deport those who don’t fit his mould and execute those who protest.
Someone called this fool a body builder too, if he is a body builder I am Lou Ferrigno without the green paint
That idiot boasted about using violence and terror to intimidate women.
Whilst I agree he’s an idiot Bella I’ve never heard Dismayed using violence and terror to intimidate women.
Stop it mate & don’t drag me into your spat with Dismayed.
He’s been nothing but polite to me. 😜
I say let’s hear from these lowlifes like Cottrell, Mr. Insider as they really have nothing to say. Unqualified, unrepresentative of the masses, what could we learn from Cottrell? Nothing I say. We might as well listen to Ross “The Skull” May, as we did many years ago in the Sydney Domain and he had nothing to say that was remotely enlightening or beneficial to mankind. Its bad enough we have to listen to Turnbull and Shorten, two blowhards if ever I have seen.
Let’s hear these Wallys, they are like “candles in the wind” as Elton sung, imho.
Think I am getting caught out in the different time zones.
Footy tips
I’m in. Blues to win again this week.
Send some of that gear my way please Jack.
Tracy, thanks for running the epl again. Much appreciated and if I could catch you I’d give you a big hug and kiss whilst fighting off the animals that infest your abode!
Go Chelsea [and Milton]
Yes, thanks Tracy. I’m in, too.
“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.” JS Mill, On Liberty, Ch 2.
Still the best rule to live by.
Absolutely true.
Big call that one.
Even ratbags are entitled to F.O.S. however repugnant the individual. His oxygen should be shut down by zero media coverage, unless it is reporting of his past, present or future criminal behaviour.
“His oxygen should be should be shut down by zero media coverage? ”
So what if some media support that repugnant characters repugnant views and publish hem vigorously?
Any boundaries?