The week in Australian federal politics was headlined by the triumphant return of ‘Bad’ Malcolm Turnbull.
Australians had become accustomed to the pinkie-extended punctilios of Pleasant Malcolm and it has become clear they don’t much care for them.
So with nothing left to lose, Bad Malcolm got a run and delivered a withering character assessment of the Opposition leader. It was a terrific spray, no doubt, so full of harsh burns Bill Shorten may well still be plastering himself in aloe vera.
Bad Malcolm left his best line to last: “This sycophant, blowing hard in the House of Representatives, sucking hard in the living rooms of Melbourne — what a hypocrite.”
Understandably, lovers of the pugilistic arts weren’t about to get too excited. Should the People’s House ever become the House of Stoush with ‘Truffles’ Turnbull and ‘Wee Billy’ Shorten coming to blows, it would make last week’s Danny Green-Anthony Mundine fight look like the Thriller in Manilla.
Full column here.
The Donald’s National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn has resigned over seemingly misleading the rest of the Administration over the extent of his links to Russia and Vladimir Putin’s apparatus – https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/michael-flynn-resigns-as-national-security-adviser/2017/02/13/0007c0a8-f26e-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.214ce97e3b64.
The extent of such links and those of other officials would appear to be yet to be determined, but might be substantial.
Not to mention he’s bonkers – http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/02/09/what-trump-is-throwing-out-the-window/.
In today’s news from the RC, an administrator from a training college for priests illustrated why the crimes were for so long allowed to spread. Asked about methods for screening applicants, he went on to say something like “I can’t believe that a man who is coming before the Lord daily in earnest prayer could be continuing to offend”. Since there are no objective tests for *coming before the Lord* it’s no wonder that committed pedophiles had no problem in the confessional, which seems to have been the highest court of examination and judgment. That witness, and all like him in positions of power, are guilty of complicity.
Many offending clerics shunned the confession box, HU, or at least they said so at the RC.
BTW, Adelaide Archbishop Philip Wilson is going to stand trial for a misprision of a felony offence in NSW. One to keep an eye on.
You’d wonder if the confession thing is true or not. If true then it shows they still had a belief in God, the church and the validity of its rituals. If that is the case how could they justify to themselves what they were doing. On the other hand if they thought the confessional was crap why didn’t they just go along and admit nothing. Did they seek absolution through prayer? I’d just love one of the bastards to be honest and tell everyone what the thought processes were. I refuse to believe there wasn’t a ‘boys club’ where discussion over a few drinks didn’t occur and philosophical issues discussed.
” said so” might be the crux here. They may have been instructed by the church or decided on their own volition not to admit to confession at the RC . It would be even more shocking and worse for the church if all the admissions were not being acted on and a lot more clerics might be held accountable for complicity.
There was something of a rebellion till the church was forced to move on a nasty piece of work from the town in which I lived. He was run out of the next place he was sent to and the last I heard he was on an island somewhere.
The establishment was rotten to the core.
Good point JB on a possible agreement to run a ‘party line’ at the RC. It wouldn’t be too hard to arrange.
Righto, here’s one for the evangelists. This story appeared in the Fin Review 11th January, and as I can’t provide a link I’ll plagiarise it.
Consistent with predictions by Flannery and co, and after a decade long drought, NSW and Vic Labor governments built excruciatingly expensive desal plants in the mid 2000’s. Then the rains came, and the plants costing $1.8 billion and $3.5 billion (thanks to Victorian labour costs) became expensive white elephants.
Ratings agency Fitch has the Victorian plant on negative watch after equipment failed in its maiden water delivery. The NSW plant delivered some water from 2010 before being mothballed in 2012. It is in “water security” (shutdown) mode with holes in the roof. As a result households will pay an extra $100 a year for water that is not needed, and in any event is now not available.
Victorians now pay $1.8 million a day to keep their plant on standby, a total of $24 billion estimated over its 28 year lifespan. Luckily the Baird government privatised the NSW facility.
All this because both governments were unwilling to take on the Greens and build new dams. The desalination plants should be called for what they are, unjustifiable expensive infrastructure driven by extreme weather events and fear which left taxpayers holding the bill.
Good stuff, Lou. The desal plants are carbon intensive, not very efficient. A poor use of public money. Not a sensible investment now or then. The drought of 05-07 led to panicked decision making, no doubt. That’s the thing about drought. Crikey, Malcolm was throwing public money at cloudseeding back then.
The irony was that householders were not permitted to have a water tank in their garden. No way the water companies were having that.
Then when things started looking dire in 2006 they were begging us to instal tanks – even subsidising them as I recall.
You should not be allowed to build a house in Australia without a rainwater tank to run the dunnies at the minimum.
The Australia that i grew up in had its utilities owned and managed by the government . Still seen no improvements to recommend privatization.
Telecom?
The thing about droughts is that no-one knows when they’ll end. The plants may have been useful and they may be yet.
Quite true, TV.
That will depend entirely on what happens in future. I pay a lot of money for various insurance. That could be derided as a stupid waste of money, but I see it as an investment against unforseen circumstances.
Couldn’t dams be that insurance? They could also generate power.
I think dams get filled with rain water don’t they? Not sure about that. The idea of desal is to cope with drought. And “drought” is a fancy way of saying “no rain.” I think?
Anyway, you work it out.
Pumped Hydro Energy storage
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/02/pumped-hydro-solution-sa/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20MacroBusiness&utm_content=Daily%20MacroBusiness+CID_fd71ac45ae052353e9b0f402867e3f11&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Is%20pumped%20hydro%20the%20solution%20in%20SA
An excellent concept and proved to be effective. Solar or wind could be used to fill dams with sea water. I’ve often thought that giant adaptions of billabong pumps in tidal rivers could be utilised to lift water to dams.
Salt water for agricultural land JB! Now there’s something worth a try. Do you foresee any problems with your idea?
Razor 11:25 AM
No Razor I don’t see any problems. PHES consists of pumping water up into a dam from whence it is released to power turbines at the premium utility. It runs back into the sea of course.
Down here we have the Greens wanting to drain and rehabilitate Lake Pedder back to its original state. Nowadays It acts as some sort of feeder to Lake Gordon. Not sure of the engineering of it all.
I like Bob Brown – I really do – but I don’t understand the logic of this. Sure, it was romantic and lovely back then, when light planes could land on the beach and many famous artists and photographers had a field day. The current Lake Pedder is still beautiful and is serving a useful purpose as far as I am aware.
Any engineer out there who can explain it better?
Just listen to this. Barnaby Joyce’s core constituency, the farmers are turning against him in droves as they embrace climate change and invest in renewable technology. Already over 20 large wind and solar projects are under construction with 12 more approved AND FINANCED. NSW is even in on it…a Liberal state. Investors have put in $5.1billion which is great for the bush. How much have investors put into coal fire stations…ZILCH. No one will do it because unlike Turnbull and the climate deniers they do not want to live via the rear view mirror. There has been nothing like this since the Snowy River Scheme. Farmers in southern NSW have 33 turbines to be finished by 2018. “This is the biggest investment in the bush since the Gold Rush” says one farmer.
Click on LISTEN NOW:-
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/solar-farms-lead-renewables-boom/8264478
The trouble is the Nats are about to be gazumped by ON. Also farmers have been using solar for years! Also 32 projects…….do you understand how big this country is?
Bassy,
This old Labor war horse seems to know where things are at! You’d hardly call him a raving right wing conservative. By the way I agree the Nationals are in deep trouble.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/graham-richardson/labors-ignorance-on-electricity-affordability-is-paving-the-way-for-electoral-massacre/news-story/0bde7bf335227a033a2d8fb9f27fbb39
Great news Bman! Wow, finally some common sense.
BJ must be turning purple with this development.
Bella
Goodness. I see Clive says he intends to sue Malcolm for $10million for besmirching his reputation. Michaela too. Only $250k for Michaela, with $100k discount if she publicly apologises. How funny.
He must be short of cash to pay his electricity bill or something.
Malcolm must have felt insulted by his worth being measured by the paltry sum, to him, of 10 million.
True! Clive should have gone the whole hog. Mind you, he hasn’t filed a suit yet. Crazy man
Clive may not have filed a suit Yvonne, but he can sure fill one.
Seems like the diet was another Clive project that has ended in dismal failure. His court appearance yesterday, and I’m not talking the physical, was sheer farce. The clock is ticking me thinks.
More OTT stuff JtI. Dismayed, you might know about this. Adelaide Energy had the Katnook gas wells and power plant which is supposed to kick in when S.A. needs extra baseload power. We drilled those wells back in the late 80’s after we discovered gas on Katnook 1 and since then, a guy I know plus a couple of others in the patch bought the wells under the Adelaide Energy banner, those guys being the major shareholders. I see the company is now delisted and Beach Energy bought the company for 20c a share. That was supposed to be the plan, a standby baseload power source as a backup to power stations and renewables. What happened I wonder?
Mack. Whoa. I drilled some more Katnook wells in the early mid 90’s. Before we took the rig over into VIc. Did you use the Atco rig down there (OD&E took it over) with a 1 piece sub-base? The one eyed crane operator bloke from Spikins I think it was used to move it from location to location. He had amazingly good depth perception for a one eyed crane op. Not sure what happened not much on net about it after 2009. Wind energy may have replaced it. The boys used to find the odd Marron in the cocky’s dams where we would get our water from.
Gearhart 2 was the rig I was on.
You could have shared a sheep at some stage Mack! How would you have stopped it bleating? The sheep as well…….
Potatoes farmers in Penola back then. Projecting your own proclivities again razor.
Marron Dismayed? Walked all the way from the South West, the only place on earth they exist, did they?
The farmers were growing them in their dams for cash flow. Cant help yourself can you. I will wait for you to recant.
http://seafoodfrontier.com.au/product/marronyabbies/
Only place they exist??? HAHAHAHAHA. Oh my. Apparently you are WRONG. No Surprises.
http://www.samarron.com.au/crayfish/about_us/AboutUs.html
Ok try this, truebluemarron.com.au.
There is a commercial Marion farm on Kangaroo Island, and some have escaped into local waterways.
The farmers most likely have yabbies, red claws, koonak or gilgees, all of which have been confused with Marion.
There are two recognised species of Marron, both indigenous to South West area of WA. The most common species is jet black, not red.
Marron became Marion in spellcheck, oh well.
For your benefit Dismayed, my family were farmers in the Southwest. The reason they didn’t stock Marron in their dams was because the creatures are highly migratory, and your stock would likely end up in someone else’s dam down the road.
The large public reservoirs were well stocked. It was illegal to fish for them, but that didn’t stop many, including us, form trying. Getting caught drew a very severe fine.
The last time I ordered Marron in a Peth restaurant, it cost $85 for a half shell.
Farmers from the South West? Uh oh.
These were definitely black Marron and some were quite large. The cocky’s, potato farmers, were not happy as they did not mind one or 2 being taken but when the boys started getting greedy it had to stop. I recall back in the early 90’s the farmers were getting $80 a kilo for their marron.
RE: BASSMAN says:
February 13, 2017 at 12:51 pm
and Dwight, MtK responses.
B’Man,
Right on there!!
I notice that Senator XenO now wants Defence cuts to finance Welfare and NDIS.
So why not cancel all the Navy Building programs in SA, lease say 6 nuclear Boats from USA, fitted with cruise or if really bold ICBM ; much cheaper than $70B for Subs and frigates, OPV are petty cash!! Frigates built off-shore at a cheaper price?
Of course we would save $20M on the generator and turn SA into an industrial and employment wasteland with abundant renewable energy. What could be wrong with that, if indeed it is endorsed by Sen XenO himself!!
But really, all idiocy aside; it is about time the Government started laying out the consequences of the Senate votes to deny Government policy. It is beyond dispute that the Senators have the right to vote as they do – but what are the consequences?
Sen XenO offers a view into these; you want more spending on welfare and NDIS or roads or bridges or anything, then we need to fix the Budget and get our fiscal position in a healthy state.
Of course Turnbull won’t do it but he should take up Sen XenO’s views, cut $3B from the ship building program (OPVs and Frigates built off-shore) and allocate it to NDIS. And leave it to Sen XenO to explain the consequences.
Of course PLMO there is the alternative to that where Malcolm the Turnip could sell SA to the Chinese and let them build coal fired power stations thre and let them power the eastern states. These states could then not have to worry about global warming as they would not be burning coal
“consequences of the Senate votes to deny Government policy” YOU SAY
There is nothing wrong with denying Government policy if it is baaaaaaaaaaad policy. That is why we have the Senate. Hitting those with new taxes and making those who are less able to pay-the unemployed, the sick, pensioners, robbing Peter to pay Paul in the case of family payments IS NOT GOOD POLICY.
…and by the way. I note Morrison is picking on the disabled. He is on VERY dangerous ground there. Voters do not like bullies. The Liberals (like Gonski) signed up to the full NDIS program and now they are lying again. They are underfunding it. This is electoral suicide.
TRUE:-that scared cow DEFENCE needs cutting…and severely. The Looters will not go near that though. In fact they are INCREASING Defence spending whilst they are cutting pensions and health programmes.
Only problem with Xeno’s plan is that the sub money is way into the future. Typical of his solutions – basically worthless.
Can we get US subs for that price? Sounds like a good deal.
The current block build of the Virginia class is about AUD $3.4 billion, _if_ they’d sell them. However, if any country in the world could get them, it’d be Oz.
They’re currently under budget, and ahead of schedule.
Depressing Dwight. I wonder how many zillions will go down the gurgler here before it’s confirmed we should have bought them elsewhere.
….submarine money is way in the future you say…well what about the $50billion the Looters wanna give big business. The benefit for that is not guaranteed and is 20 years down the track. If there is ANY benefit it has been measure at 0.5% of GDP!
Someone check this for me. I recall some years back that although big business tax is 30% only 27% of heavy industry paid the full 30%. I can’t find the link anymore. What are they paying now Bald?
If only b27% are paying the full rate they don’t need a $50billion tax gift.
Hopefully the consequences of the Senate rejecting the omnibus Bill will be a sensible negotiation of each of the distinct issues involved, rather than the govt trying to bully the Parliament into swallowing its unpopular ideological agenda holus-bolus by holding it to ransom using the NDIS.
Where does the NDIS end though? It has been hugely expensive policy on the run thrust on the present government by a previous government that knew it was going to lose. It needed to be developed utilising sound public policy principles but in typical RGR fashion it wasn’t and now we have a mess! It was only funded in the short term with all the expenditure pushed out. It is open to rort and the rentseekers are already out there in their 100’s. My wife works at a hospital and has seen it with her own eyes. I am all for a properly funded scheme that assists those who need it most but not what we have now. We need to go back to the drawing board.
I notice the ABC is running a story about obesity.
One of the threads is that there is no government help when you are overweight.
Now that is taking the nanny state to new extremes – “I’m really fat and it’s the government’s problem”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-13/australia-running-behind-in-obesity-prevention/8263816?section=health
Just some pubic servant wishing to expand his empire
It’s amazing what comes out of the ABC’s mouth JS, and even more amazing how much goes into it.
Talk about overweight, the ABC is clinically obese!
”I’m writing a book called I’m Fat, Ugly and Stupid – what’s the Government going to do about it: memoirs of a failed politician, Mr Costa told the NSW Business Chamber”
Get a government grant Dwight – can’t fail
Jean Baptiste says:
February 14, 2017 at 7:14 am
“Are you saying that methane isn’t a threat Carl? It isn’t happening.? You would know, right?”
I thought you had more smarts than you apparently do JB. You seemingly didn’t take in anything I offered.
On the question of “threats”, a marshmallow in the hands of an infant is a threat.
Of course methane is a threat!! Are you so insecure JB with the presentation of your subject matter as to constantly expect an instant slobbering, acquiescent, unqualified endorsement of every illustrated graph, diagram and reported puff and swirl of greenhouse gas you think that you alone have (Halleluiah !) discovered while feverishly trawling the internet.
Come on JB, you can do better than that me old mate.
Good God. Now you’re saying the threat of methane to life on earth is a mere marshmallow!
Sacre Bleu! Dormez vous frere Carl?
http://www.lemauricien.com/article/deadly-threat-posed-methane
http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/opinion/features/f0099-new-warning-about-climate-change-linked-to-peat-bogs/
Right, let’s deal with this Dismayed.
I’ll start by informing you that I was, for many years, the financial manager of a prestigious firm of architects involved in the design of significant buildings in Melbourne, Adelaide and elsewhere. I’m talking huge complicated construction , not residential – hospitals, research laboratories, universities and the like. Not little oil rigs either.
I dealt with the financial side of contracts that ran for years on significant buildings that involved dealing with the client, the construction company, the engineers, our architects, interior designers and so on.
So let’s reproduce your response to my comment on the Royal Adelaide Hospital ………
.” You are an idiot. You live on ridiculous hearsay. My cost over runs come from poor design starting at the architectural stage which produces things that are difficult to engineer. the biggest problem in construction is the terrible planning and management. I was brought onto a big construction project in the Bass Strait a couple of years ago that was running way over time and over budget. The Main contractor could not manage a chook raffle. the union issues all had to do with the adversarial nature of the lead contractors Managers most of whom were just not up to running large teams or planning and were terrible at organising logistically. We turned the project around but the lead contractors Management were the biggest impediment on the project. You have No experience and No idea what you are talking about.”
I am not going to sit back and have you tell me that I am an idiot and do not know what I am talking about when it comes to design and construction, Dismayed – you are arrogant and your self-importance is starting to ruin this blog – that JTI has kindly provided and gives of his time, for a group of nice people to voice their opinions.
A blog should be a platform for people to comment on daily life experiences – or the latest article from Jack – as they see it. They are not bound to agree with your ideologies.
In another one of your comments somewhere you state your credentials as having been on the blog since its inception as well as those of Melagonis, Mumble and CK.
You seem to regard that as giving you some sort of superiority or right to carry on as you please, throwing insults left and right
And don’t play the victim with us and say that you give as good as you get. No-one else on this blog is as rude or capable of being so. You know full well, as does everyone else here, that it is only you who chooses to use this blog as some sort of political platform from which to post link after link after link to extreme left sites and then pour scorn on anyone who questions them. I’m not sure if everyone opens them. I don’t because I read what I want to read. I don’t need to be indoctrinated.
When members of the blog disagree and put up a counter idea you tell us all that we are idiots, ignorants, old fools etc etc etc. Presumably you feel utterly superior and that you do not fall into those categories you give to everyone else on here – despite the fact that your rantings make you look worse than foolish.
Some on here have tried on more than one occasion, to advise you, politely, that your attitude actually gets you absolutely nowhere. It actually turns people off you and your suggested links.
Someone else has remarked that you are ruining this blog. It would certainly seem that you would indeed be more suited to have a go on a site where you can voice your ideas amongst like-minded people and get their applause rather than our collective amusement
Yes, you have one or two supporters on here. But those people do not resort to insulting and denigrating others of differing opinions. They are instead clever and witty and can make a point in a nice or indeed ironic or sarcastic way – something that you do not comprehend and are not capable of.
I am tired of copping your crap and of reading it endlessly. I absolutely refuse to be called an idiot by you. I am not an idiot.
I do not want to leave this blog as a result of irritation with you. I generally try to ignore you – until I am told I am an idiot and know nothing on a topic that I know a hell of a lot more about than you do, for sure. What do you want – an exclusive uninhabited area for you to rant from to the exclusion of all others? For God’s sake start your own site then or get a soapbox and stand in a park somewhere.
I enjoy the camaraderie on here and I have a lot of respect for JTI – who gives of his time selflessly – as well as the other bloggers. We may not all agree with each other on everything but we are wise enough to know that variety is the spice of life.
I ask you again. Leave me alone. Do not comment on anything I say. I am not interested in anything you have to say.
Applause!
Ditto
Your problems are ruining this blog for you. You are responsible for Your reactions. No one else. Your constant need to be a Victim is your problem and sad. You are happy to attack people but when you are treated the same, as above, you, become unhinged. Your inability to comprehend or your wanting to read into things what You want is Your problem Your own failure. Your refusal to accept facts is your failure. Your obsession is Your issue to deal with. Working in finance is very different to actually putting together up to Multi Billion dollar structures and installations with hundreds of people on the jobs. You should perhaps look at your own words and hold Yourself responsible for Your own issues. Move along.
I am not running this blog so you can pump out weirdly cloying, passive-aggressive garbage, Dismayed.
I can ban anyone from this blog much easier than I could with the old one. Techincally, it’s two buttons. Morally it’s no stretch either.
Let me know what you want to do. Really.
I’ve always thought there’s something attractive about a woman getting their dander up Yvonne.
I liked it.
Well…… the really attractive ones get my dander up.
Now, now boys. I don’t think those comments would go down too well in the Channel 7 boardroom right now!!
CotC is that what you would call misogyny, or just showing your patriarchal support of Aristotles views? Or are you just objectifying woman?
“The first human to hurl an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilisation.” If that helps? Freud I think.
Do I hear a bugle? Ah that will be Colonel Razor of the 7th Cavalry to the rescue.
Yvonne, I must object.
i am sure that a reasonable judge would think me capable of being at least as rude as Dismayed.
Well the reply to that will be interesting.
Keep your chin up Yvonne. The JB’s, Bassy’s, Dazza’s, JOH’sand the rest of the left leaners are worth the stay. As you say you can have a blue on one post and agree on the next. I’ve even learnt the odd thing from JB and Dazza! JB has an all natural non chemical cleaning agent for toilets that is especially efficient. Crushed moon rock and toothpaste! Dazza knows the best takeaway Chinese Shandy in Perth! Special fried rice and Sweet and Sour pork by the bucket load. (Sarcasm lads). Even Penny and I are friends again even though I refused to send her pictures of my pecs.
There are some great people on this blog and our host is worth the stay. Would’nt know a police stat from his elbow but worth it. (Sarcasm again JTI).
What fun!
Why don’t the combatants make an agreement to ignore each other? The first to blink pays a bottle of unpronounceable overpriced Irish bog water to the winner?
Get over yourselves all of you prima donnas, you’re taking yourselves too seriously.
Being a well bred fellow I advise thus ……
“A gentleman would never insult me, someone not a gentleman could never insult me.”
(dunno who said that, but he or she would be too refined to care for the odium of personal publicity vis a vis attribution, so f**k ’em)
PS Every dysfunctional family, society etc needs a scapegoat to function as apparently sane, couldn’t someone volunteer?
Dear JB.
My daughter on Stradbroke Island is a greenie. (see, I did do something right) . She’s also an environmental scientist.
Anyway she launched into raising chooks – and then one day her city-slicking Melbourne sister went to visit and started itching when helping in the chookpen.. Closer investigation revealed a massive infestation of chicken mites in their enclosure. Poor birds.
Despite our collective horror, greenie daughter is not one to spray nice toxic, effective carcinogenic chemicals around. So she doused everything, even the poor chooks, in diatamaceous earth. Christ, I had to look up what it was. Crushed shells of minute sea organisms. Scepticism ran rife amongst the rest of us. Worked like a charm. Mites were vanquished and the chooks were smiling again.
Which brings me to the point – be nice – unless you want a ton of diatamaceous earth dumped on you. Xx
I used to do heaps of band gigs at the North Straddy hotel. The place used to rock!
Phaw! Talk about passive aggressive. I don’t believe I’ve been called a flea infested chook before Yvonne. Fair enough, but it will take more than a ton of diamataceous earth for the correction you require. (I knew what was too BTW)
When I was twelve years old I saw a priest slap an eight year old girl hard across the face for underperforming at an inter school sports meet. Not one “nice” adult responded, they all looked away. I have never forgiven “nice” people and I probably never will. I don’t do “nice.” When I’ve tried it I end up hating myself.
True story! Maybe you can find another use for that ton of diamataceous earth.
They stuff it down drill holes I believe Could be a clue in there?
I’m watching you.
Jean Baptiste says:
FEBRUARY 15, 2017 AT 1:00 PM
Well now U know why priest are locked in a box confessional with wire between the priest and the victim
Still rocks Bassy.
It’s a beautiful island. I don’t go up there in Summer – way too hot – but around July/August it’s lovely
That’s a sad story JB. I’m sorry it affected your outlook as you say it has.
I was educated by the nuns in a Catholic boarding school right through my school years.
Believe me, I saw, and was also the subject of, many incidences of their weird and at times cruel discipline.
I resolved never to let my children be educated by the nuns, but I can’t say they destroyed my faith in human kindness.
I might take a break from JTI’s blog for a while – but love your work. You are funny. Rest assured the DE tale was meant as a friendly jibe – nothing malicious.
Yvonne 15th.
Don’t be sorry, I’m glad I had the experience, I think it gave me the gift of seeing past the veneers.
I still get very wound up about that little girl hit by that monster and no adult going to her aid. I quite literally vomited right there and then. Which was no doubt a response to my own lonely experience of violence. Which I had adapted to well enough but seeing shock and hurt of that level in someone so innocent was a different thing altogether and a very powerful experience.
Anyhow, sulk if you must, you’ll get over it soon enough. I’ll be happy to see you back with the rest of these idle ratbags.
Give ’em heaps.
For those interested I was on ABC Conversations with Richard Fidler discussing the life and times of Chow Hayes.
The podcast will be available shortly (no audio up yet): http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/conversations-jack-hoysted-chow-hayes/8257526
I have done so many times JB only to be attacked again and then be accused again when I respond in kind. My days appear numbered. Groupthink wins again. Give em heaps.
The conservative clique will try to bounce you off the blog by continually provoking you Dismayed. There’s a couple of real clever smooth operators here, dyed in the wool barrackers posing as fence sitters. They cant stand your energetic linking.
I and a few friends whom I have clued in (they don’t post) who rely on your links (because we’re too lazy or busy to do the hard yards) to keep informed.
You’re young, passionate (and a bit hot headed) but it’s people like you that the world needs now.
Don’t respond to them. They don’t want you to be nice, they want you OFF! GONE! The born to rule think they should make the rules, everywhere.
It’s at the stage where you’ve given ’em plenty, repeating wont make a blind bit of difference so just carry on with your observations and links.
Ignore them completely. Just write your stuff and post your links.
Then they’ll really hate your guts!
Cheers!
Your days don’t have to be numbered Dismayed, as JB says don’t bite when things get personal and don’t retaliate when attacked with insults.
You do have stuff to offer, so stay cool….
Razor, did I ask for a picture of your pecs? If so why wouldn’t you send them?
Look I have to say that over the years I’ve been insulted by quite a few people here on this blog, but I think if you put yourself out there, you have to be able to expect to get some flak back. However I have only been upset once and that was by the person called Chris, remember him? He was much more offensive than Dismayed ever has been. He came up in various guises, but from memory he was from Perth and had served in the army. Anyway he basically accused me of being a whore because I mentioned that we had been talking to an Australian Army Major and enjoyed hearing the Australian accent …..a somewhat confusing accusation I thought. He disappeared shortly after that, came back briefly as someone else, but his style was too similar so he was caught out.
Anyway my point is, we all have something to say, whether right or left or in the middle. I know online education is a lot different that contributing to a blog, but one of the rules that is non-negotiable in an online classroom is you are penalized if you flood the discussion board with comments and then shut down other participants. Balanced discussions are always preferred.
Diversity and tolerance as far as I am concerned is the way to go, but obviously different personalities and different perspectives are going to result in robust discussions.
Razor’s pecs? He wears a sports bra Penny.
I’m a terrible stirrer Penny and was just having a little go at you. Sorry if I offended.
I remember Chris. He posted a link with a video of someone assisting two pigs in the process of mating. Luckily a couple of us saw it and were able to get onto Jack to have it deleted. From memory that earned him a little holiday.
I like the blog and virtually all the posters. I can lose it as quick as the next person but try to temper that, particularly in recent times when some of the other ladies and yourself have complained. What has gotten under my skin is why one person would post constant negative comments on each and every topic. Not one ever on a positive note. That’s why I truly wonder what the motivation behind it all is. He has been reached out to in a conciliatory manner by a number of people, including myself, yet the vitriol continues. Is this site his ‘assigned’ site to troll and shutdown because it is seen as conservative? I have no idea but I do know that political parties and activist organisations alike do that sort of thing. His harping on baby boomers and age generally, along with links of choice, has the ring of Getup to me and good luck to them and him if that is the case. I think it’s working.
Our lefties bring great things to the blog all bar one. They bring constructive opinion, humour and interesting stories and knowledge. I love Dazza’s stuff on China for example and JB’s mastery of language. Anyhow let’s see what the future brings shall we.
Razor, I still think I need to see your pecs. Look I agree with you to an extent, but I’ve actually read quite a few of Dismayed’s posts and find them quite interesting. He and I have discussed the value of providing a link to support your point of view because to be perfectly frank, I’m too lazy to read a post which makes a good point and then I’m directed to a link…..which I don’t generally open…..phew that was a long sentence.
I note that often though when he does post and it could be on cricket, AFL or anything that he does seem to know about, someone jumps on him and that’s when he retaliates.
Is he hot-headed? Probably…..is he negative all the time, no he’s not.
What I don’t like is the fact that he seems to be the only one here that an awful lot of other posters here, gang up on. Bella picked it, JB picked it and to me it was a case of the high school thing of let’s all jump on the bandwagon and thump him behind the sheds while we’re all on a roll and the teachers aren’t looking.
Dismayed sticks up for himself, but he doesn’t start it. Now we can all agree to disagree but I would hate to see him or anyone banned from this blog,because of differences of opinion.
Chris was a different kettle of fish entirely, I remember him also telling one quite vulnerable poster to go and kill herself so the world would be a better place. Now that was horrible
I remember her! A couple of years ago she was an anarchist. I’m trying to recall her nom de plume but can’t.
Razor……was it Isabelle, Isabella?
Just a footnote to the Adelaide Hospital saga. It’s opening date is currently unknown or, based on the story so far, slightly later. If you live in Adelaide it’s probably easier to work out when you will die. Once you’ve worked that out, add a month or so and the hospital will be open. When you’ve completely decomposed it should be humming like a top.
Might be a good idea to get a flu vaccine shot before Winter, Perentie. Just in case they don’t get it up and running to cope with cases of influenza. That seems to be their current concern.
It’s a beautiful building – state of the art and all that. It will still be relevant when the first nuclear power station is up and running in SA perhaps.
Oh one more thing. Start compiling your list of preferred visitors. Could get rather lonely trying to have a chat with a totally sterile robotic meals deliverer – rather than the good old potentially germ-laden, cheery tea lady/person
Best thing to do is stay healthy. Once opened it will serve the state with distinction for decades.
Nice one Yvonne.
An erudite and timely dispatch Yvonne.
The retort was predictable. JTI was succinct, my advice to this bloke would be a more simple Aussie advice, second word is off.
The same rules go for every one not just for Dismayed. Avoid the personal attacks. If you have an argument over politics, then argue your case. This blog doesn’t have to lapse into abuse and it will die if it does because I’ve got better things to do than oversee ugly online shit fights. I picked out Dismayed because he is one of the worst offenders but the rules work for everyone. Just because we are online doesn’t mean that basic courtesies go out the window. Show some manners.