As we sit and wait for news of the fate of the seven dual citizens as they traipse from their parliamentary offices with the woebegone air of condemned men and women to the High Court this afternoon, it is worth reflecting on the sort of week the government has already had.
There is a prescient sense of deja vu about it. The Turnbull government often has good Tuesday afternoons but come the weekend, the control of the agenda has been lost, a scandal has emerged, or infighting on the backbenches has turned into a donnybrook. The familiar theme is, in any one week of the Turnbull government, one step forward and three back.
Indeed it has happened so often the thought occurs that possibly Malcolm Turnbull isn’t very good at being prime minister.
Full column here.
From the last blog an entry by Dismayed:
“ah JB it has be very pleasant with out the 2 eternal victims one has returned the ther will follow suit soon I imagine”
Dismal, you often speak of echo chambers. If you cannot tolerate alternate views then can I ask you a question “Are you living in one?”
JS at that time of night you made your comment I will assume you were under the effects of some sort of “relaxant” then again the comment makes as much sense as your usual nonsensical rubbish. Get off the sauce before commenting. You will note I was correct. In fact your comment is so ridiculous you prove another point. It was the other 2 who were whinging as usual because I dared to challenge their group think. Look out! oh its just a another shadow for you to jump at.
Not worth bothering with JS. I don’t think the man comprehends the meaning of the word “victim”.
Because he himself was making himself look very victimised by Telstra last week!
I have never felt victimised here – annoyed/irritated maybe, but not victimised!
All good mate. 🙂
On the Qld issue, I guess the result will be indicative of the mood there. A resounding win in her own right will endorse her – although I think it’s rather dependant on which way Pauline jumps.
Its not the alternate views that get to you, its the endless pointless sniping. Like your post to Dismayed, not Dismal btw, bit rude when you are bitching about others, you couldnt help yourself and just let it float by? Why do you care what Dismayed thinks or says. Scroll or let it go. Two perfectly good choices. Grow up a bit.
Because Wraith, all he does is regurgitate stuff from propaganda central on all sorts of subjects – his own personal echo chamber.
I really get tired of scrolling past his drivel.
AND as usual, he has not answered the question.
But JS, it really is easier to scroll past his ‘drivel’ surely! This blog is all about different opinions, don’t like it, just scroll. And what question did you ask him? Something about an echo chamber, I think.
You are a bright guy JS and I really enjoy your posts. Stick to the main game is all I am saying.
The point is, Penny, that Dismal will not tolerate differing opinions and does his level best to get rid of those whose opinions vary from himself.
He’s like a stuck bloody boring record.
He is the epitome of what is wrong in politics today and there are far too many of him on both sides of politics and in the press.
They are destroying our democracy.
After scrolling past screen full of his post on an IPad, one has to be very strong to resist not making a cryptic comment.
JS HAHAHHAHAAHA. Get grip take a look in the mirror you are projecting as usual. oh my goodness .
JS you did not ask a question. You made a statement. Now “stuff from propaganda central on all sorts of subjects” Surely this statement alone highlighting various subjects and by virtue different areas and publications precludes all possibility of an “echo chamber” . What is clear is the cons in this country are desperate and are lashing out at anyone who highlights ( which is very easy) their glaring inadequacies.
I made no statement i this entry – I was questioning your total inability to tolerate differing ideas.
That is an echo chamber in my view.
Unfortunately, both sides of politics are filled with the likes of you and this has led to the total mess in many countries around the world including this country.
People like yourself, who have made partisan politics almost a blood sport, have a lot to answer for and will be the first to whine when our country ends up ungovernable.
Oh come on Wraith. With the utmost respect, it needs pointing out that the post JS referred to (JB, I see the eternal victims are back etc) was put out there completely unprovoked and unnecessarily. It was not instigated by JS. It earned the response from him that it was owed. And no one here enjoys being drawn into nasty spiteful debate.
Again, with the utmost respect, let me voice the opinion that Dismayed does not set the agenda for this blog. It is a mix of interesting and varying opinions. Bullying people off it – (sometimes it is just easier to go rather than punch a hole in the wall) is ridiculous and I think everyone has had enough.
We are a nice bunch of intelligent people here whose company is enjoyable.
So how about we try and work to peace and harmony?
I couldn’t care enough about anyone’s opinions on here to punch a wall.
Scroll, scroll, scroll your ball,
Gently down the screen,
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Life is but a dream.
Peace and harmony! Bugger that for a joke. Get some mustard inta ya’s. It’s not a bloody , groan, golf club or bowling club. The planet is circling the plug hole and yers want peace and harmony? Yeccchhhhh!
Wraith, you and I have been on this blog long enough to know that there are some who want it all to go their way or not at all. I got annoyed at Dismayed a couple of weeks ago, said my piece and that was that. The one thing I do like about him, is he bounces back, sticks up for himself and comes back for more….bit like the guy in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
It’s the herd mentality, ooh, ooh look we can bully one guy and he’ll crumple and then get pissed off when he doesn’t.
Having said that there is enough banter and humor to make me stay.
I also have made a few good friends here, including believe it or not The Plumber who’s just a big softy really.
The softie seems to be MIA.
Qui?
Dismal gets back what he gives.
As to herd – just a lonely old bull here with fading memories of past and probably imagined glories.
Yep
Dr Penny, I, like a dwindling few have been here since inception of JTI’s blog which was originally referred to as “front bar” like due to the characters and robust nature of discussion. Since inception the more conservative types have always tried to run off anyone who dare question. There is something strange in that almost all make the same claims after and are generally the first to turn to personal abuse then immediately claim to be some sort of victim. It is one of the things about the cons that keep me Dismayed. Oh and I rather think I am more like Arthur than the Black Night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
Agree with your last two paragraphs Penny. I enjoy the camaraderie too.
In my opinion Dismayed brings a lot of strife and ridicule down on himself. I really do not think there is a combined effort here to drive him off. Telling someone they must have been under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or are a “victim” because they have a differing opinion, or object to his jibes, is not the ideal way to win friends or influence people! His continual use of the slur “victims” puzzles me. Victims of what?
If Truffles Turnbull is Wile E. Coyote, maybe Not-so-Slick Billy Shorten is more a Porky Pig or Daffy Duck with the Road Runner’s luck.
The rest of the Gubbermint remind me rather of Elmer Fudd.
I was also hoping that the QLD would wait until the Goddamned Postal Survey thingy was over and done with before announcing the State Election. At least for me, one election or referendum at a time is enough for me at the moment. The good thing is, conversely, that it means the next Government still gets only a three-year term, unlike if they’d waited until January, like I thought they might, for the full four-year fixed term to kick in.
Too bad they’ve overturned a signal recommendation of the Fitzgerald Report and snuck back Full Preferential Voting sneakily in the dead of night to stick one up the LNP.
The electoral boundaries and names look to have radically changed in the last redistribution as well, so it might pay to look so as not to get caught out on November 25th.
That preferential voting thing is going to bite them in the ass I think. It was predicated on ensuring more flows of Green preferences to the ALP. However, they didn’t imagine that One Nation would be making a comeback. Another Wile E. Coyote moment.
I suspect that the One Nation voters who used to be old Labor voters (rather than for the Liberals and Country/National Parties) are probably getting on a bit now, too.
I like your Elmer Fudd analogy Rhys. It is close to the mark.
Wascally wabbit!
Courtesy of that wonderful TV Show you often appear on, Mr Insider, “The Insiders”, a clip called “The Ever Changing Story” and its about a confused lad who acknowledged Climate Change the fought wildly to refute it and now has come the full circle to Re-embrace it and who else would that be other than that “Master Flip Flopper” ex ousted PM Tony Abbott. Strewth.
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/the-ever-changing-story/9096936
Saw it Sunday morning HB, been sing that wretched song ever since!
my ‘ing’ fell off!
Try the kids alphabet song Wraith – Thursday’s is Granny day and the blasted tune rattles around for at least a day.
Apologies Wraith, know what you mean. Cheers
Ah I see we now have the acting PM for plagiarism. Lets hope nothing important needs doing while she is in the chair. By Monday morning we could be at war with NZ? Anyone who runs a legal defence based on waiting out people to die is not fit to lead this country.
Geez. M. Starc has destroyed the SACA’s with an 8 for 73 after forgotten man Trent Copeland did the damage with a 6 wicket haul in SA’s first innings. Chad Sayers again the pick of the SA bowlers with 4 for. The pink ball seems to hoop around in Adelaide for some reason. SACA’s young opener Weatherald the only one to stand up in each innings. Big win for the test strength Blues.
The sluggish NBN may spawn a new era of Private “NBN’s”, Mr Insider like this one just opened in Bundaberg QLD by a very enterprising young chap and called “Open Cloud Broadband”. His Web Page linked.
https://www.opencloudbroadband.com/
Very good article on turnbulls internet debacle.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/paul-budde-nbn-blame-games-start/
When will the government latest ROC go after the BCA or the Minerals council or any number of lobbying groups?
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/bca-investigation-power-of-the-business-lobby-in-australia/
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/new-ti-report-rent-seekers-corruption-risks-australian-mining-industry/
10 minutes before kickoff and my son decides to tell me that Harry Kane isn’t playing!!! Penny on a roll, 7/7.
How long before NZ finds out that most of its pollies are citizens of Bondi?
Personally l’d like to see Jacinda on that beach protecting me from the sharks!
I think people have had it up to their back teeth with politics/politicians and APalusay, nee Megalogenis goes and calls a snap election. Don’t think that will work in her favour. Then again whose running agin her – the Springboard (to oblivion)?
Bring back Bill Grieve, I say. Every time I go to a pub, or a bowls club, or am outside watching the sunset an hour too early people sidle up to me and say “Have you heard any word of the Grievemeister?” And sadly I have to say no, at least not on the political front.
It’s Time, Bill!
He has been on this blog and the last.
Anastasia will win Milton, she is a shrewd operator. Remember she ousted Campbell Newman when he held a 70 odd seat margin over her. Save your money dear friend if you are betting on “Nobody” Tim Nicholls and the hapless LNP. Cheers
No Henry, if Anna was a “shrewd operator” she’d never have sold out her voter base by backing a filfthy coal mine.
Adani is a crime against the environment, our agricultural lands, the GBR & has zero financial credibility.
APs campaign will find out very quickly that the backlash for supporting Adani will be like wearing a dead chook around her neck.
Bye bye Anna, you brought this on yourself. You lied.
It would appear the constant carping on the demise of the GBR have been greatly exaggerated Bella.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/opinion/great-barrier-reef-recovering-from-coral-bleaching/news-story/4d202eaaccacb7e7490ed2f1ae80a25c
Further to that, the reef is over 2,000 kilometres long. I’m not in any way knowledgeable about it but I do find the whole ‘reef-is-dead’ or about to die from many directions just a mite hysterical.
It may appear that way to persons selectively blinded to the environmental catastropes Adani will be responsible for.
All that loss plus 60 years of free water taken off farmers for a dirty deal with a dodgy Indian corporate.
What’s the go with those airy fairy 1400 jobs promised before the entire fiasco goes full auto?
I hear applicants are having trouble applying cos it’s ‘difficult’ to find their premises.
I actually hope you’re right about the Reef Razor however the minute the first shovel of soil is turned for the supposed construction of this mine then all we can expect is decades of degradation that Guatum will simply walk away from, as he has with every other mess he’s left behind.
AP should be ashamed of herself and she’ll see how disappointed Qld is on November 25. #VoteGreens #StopAdani 🌍
Bella, Adani are not hard to find at all. There is a massive sign on the side of the Telstra building in Townsville. Applications for jobs have commenced with office workers in Townsville already being employed.
Here is the government own information and another long term monitoring site. Both clearly show the Reef is NOT in good shape. “Global coral bleaching over the last two years has led to widespread coral decline and habitat loss on the Great Barrier Reef. Since December 2015, the Great Barrier Reef has been exposed to above average sea surface temperatures, due to the combined effects of climate change and a strong El Niño.
http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/about-the-reef/reef-health
http://www.aims.gov.au/docs/research/monitoring/reef/latest-surveys.html
Bella. Chill. The reef is rooted. The whales are rooted. Two decades max. (oh, and us too!) There is nothing we can do about it.
It appears McPherson is correct, and so too Razor in a bizarre catastrophic unaware way. We have reached a tipping point where reducing the amount of pollutants entering the atmosphere will cause a dramatic rise in temperature.
Currently the planet is heating at the rate (nearly all in the oceans) of the equivalent heat yield of 3 Hiroshima size atomic bombs every 2 seconds above preindustrial levels. Reducing the amount of CO2 emissions wont make things better or us last longer.
We will lose all or nearly all of the reflective Arctic ice sheet soon and methane will really rock! Join the “Free The Methane Action Group” f you want to be a winner.
Love the whales and the reef while you can, there is no way they can be saved.
Just love ’em.
PS Theres 84,600 seconds in a day.
La Niña this year and so the natural cycle continues. It amazes me that people who have spent bugger all time on the GBR become experts. Cyclones absolutely destroy swathes of the reef and in 3 to 4 years its back to normal. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. We are once again at the end of the Qld 7yr drought cycle. Floods this year I’d say.
Will be very interesting Bella.
What is One Nation’s stance on Adani?
Generally B One Nation is widely regarded as ‘Liberal Lite’ so I dare say they’d support anything the Feds want them to.
Part-time ‘scientist’ Malcolm Roberts probably didn’t require empirical evidence for dirty energy.😨
Any way you look at it , the GBR is a single issue ( ok, with complex ramifications). Supporting the Adani circus does not preclude her from being shrewd.
Back in the late 60’s there was a lot of opposition to selling off the coal rights to the Japanese and US companies. (By the way Mitsui – I think – anyway the Japanese coal operator – never paid a cent in tax for goodness knows when – fast learners we are not).
The story put about was, “If you don’t sell it to us we will come and take it”
We are citizens of the world therefore our resources are available to all.
Why on earth we signed off to a dodgy firm like Adani and then signed off UNLIMITED water rights for the next 60 years is beyond me – the water rights will be worth more than the coal.
I wonder if the water rights are tied to the coal development.
The whole thing has a very unpleasant odour about it.
The One Nation vote is going to be extremely interesting.
She has expanded the public service by some 20,000 or so apparently. The unions little puppet.
So now you begrudge the people of QLD getting quality services and jobs such as Nurses, Police, Fireman, Teachers etc, etc after one term councillor newman cut the PS by some 15,000 even after admitting it would hit economic growth in QLD. Are you advocating for even more subsidised Private health, Private Education or even Private Police forces and Fire fighting units? Just what is you point about apart from knocking QLD’ers having a job?
Hello sunshine.
Not making a point – just stating a fact. Dont begrudge qlders anything really.
Nice to see you standing up for Qld.!
And how is this being paid for?
Opps! Forgot!
Prudent economics is not in your lexicon as GetUp rarely mentions it.
JS. QLD announced the largest Surplus the state has had in over a decade in the last budget. Surplus, S u r p l u s. The QLD government has managed to pay down Newmans debt by $15 billion plus bring down the debt ratio from 90% of revenue to 70% of revenue. So not sure what happens in your “echo chamber” but reducing debt, growing the economy, creating jobs and delivering a Surplus has to be acknowledged as a fair effort. So Get that Up ya.
For once you are correct Dismal – I stand corrected.
Wonderful stuff those coal royalties.
I say there’s always bad apples in every business, from the big banks to the smallest operators.
Union membership is a must have if you’re just a worker bee in todays greedy corporate world.
The FSU certainly had my back when I needed them against a s***storm of ridiculous upselling pressure & unfair, unpaid after- hours demanded by the biggest of the big four.