Making sense of 2017 (Hint: alcohol is a must)
Making sense of 2017 (Hint: alcohol is a must)
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Give it away dear Mr Baptiste, you are cornered good buddy. Mr Wissendorf @ January 8, 2018 at 11:50 am has got you by the short and curlies on Global Warming and NASA has you by the same on the Moon Landings with this magnificent Archive of raw photos, linked below. Suggest you now take up finger painting or pottery. Cheers good buddy thanks for coming
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums
You are a child Henry. A big galumphing wide eyed naif child.
No where near as childish as you Mr Baptiste as you continue to peddle twaddle to the unsuspecting masses whilst deliberately ignoring mans wonderful achievements. Of course it was the USA who went to the Moon and we all know how much you loath the USA while sucking up to murderers like Kim Jong-Un and Co. Come on buddy time for the old uppercut do us all a favour. Cheers
With all the rising sea levels it’s hard to tell weather (sic hehe) Jean is drowning or waving, Henry. Either way he’s way out of his depths and his passive aggression is beginning to resurface!!
Great intereactive scaleable graphic here showing sea levels, glaciation and desertification over 2 billion years, tied to a scaleable world map. Clicking ‘Visualisations’and clicking on one of the camera icons that will appear offer a visualisation of the locality on the map (all are in Australia), and dragging the red line across the graph at top left will change the visualisation in syc with the time you select. You can watch Sydney Harbour fill and empty, the Barrier Reef as a chain of hills sliding into the sea and Port Phillip Bay as bushland. The Sahara Desert presents as a desert but sliding back into time it shows as dense forest. Fun AND educational. A product of Monash Uni from original research by ANU conducted on the Sahul Banks off the Kimberly Coast.
http://sahultime.monash.edu.au/explore.html
Seriously Henry, do you honestly still believe in that nonsense? Be straight with me now.
Someone calculated that if the astronauts were really on the moon they must have taken a perfectly framed photo every 7 seconds.
Surely if they were on the moon they would have taken one happy snap of the Earth for the folks back home, just one teensy photo of the sun?
Humans will never land on the moon Henry, I’ll be very surprised if they get out of the magnetosphere and return safely before we are finished on the planet.
And don’t get snippy with me, I know creeping doubt is a bit unsettling so get the nurse to check your Webster pack, you’re not taking all your pills.
Bollocks. Cheers
My post was more a criticism of the WP and their sloppy approach to research, and sensationalist style Henry. Jean Baptiste is only guilty of not checking before quoting. I don’t think I’d enjoy tangling with M. Baptiste’s short and curlys, which I suspect, for no really good reason, would be a gnarly and tangled thatch, and a hideout for God knows what.
You’re not quite up with pace on this game Wissy.
He is a Professor of Google only Wissendorf, no qualifications at all. We arnt sure he got into Secondary School at this point. Cheers
http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/nothing-can-be-taught.
Yep, you’re right, and I will be eternally grateful the mind numbing droning servants of the system didn’t get the opportunity to turn me into a brainwashed dill who believes everything the masters of the universe want me to believe.
Try thinking for yourself Henry. NO! DONT! Jesus, what am I saying!
Oh my and oh dear Henry, Wissendorf simply informs Jean that he has been sloppy and lazy and of not exercising any intellectual rigour towards some misleading report in the WP, and he’s quick off the mark with the “climate denier” charge (an old obfuscating ploy), and on the back foot and defensive with the “And don’t get snippy with me” line to you. He’s funny when he takes himself so seriously and with his look at moi, look at moi. Bless him, Henry he doesn’t like it up him!
Load of rubbish. Wissendorf panders to the deniers while pretending not to be one. Makes spurious claims regarding the veracity of published figures and claims to have made calculations without revealing the process. Makes no attempt to reveal the actual ice loss from Greenland because the strategy is to draw attention away from the horrendous thawing of the Greenland ice mass.
The inference hoped for is that all information regarding AGW is suspect. A great disservice to humanity.
They’ll try anything on, half the deniers are taking the line, A trillion tons is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Great rivers are roaring across the surface of Greenland and disappearing into massive chasms, all year round. At best it is a giant Swiss cheese, but more likely and unstable and undermined giant slushie.
I will now conclude this sermon to the forelock tugging servants.
Well not quite concluded.
You don’t want to know about it , you want others to stop talking about it.
So, sorry! Don’t know what went wrong, I was such a nice kid.
If it’s any consolation , this hurts me more than it hurts you. Honest!
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/great-greenland-meltdown
I don’t pander to anyone. I pointed out you had parroted an error without having the basic sense to check what you were repeating. You seem to lack a fundamental grasp of the very basic science I presented. It’s on a reputable science education site, designed for high school students. I challenged you to find error in my post; you responded with vitriol and abuse, so I’ll lay out the primary school level arithmetic for you in a way that you might understand, if you try hard.
A cubic decimetre is a cube 10cm on each edge. A cubic decimetre holds one litre of water and that water weighs one kilogram. There are 1000 cu dm in a cu metre, so one cu m of water weighs one thousand kilograms or one tonne. Your figures – ablation of one trillion tonnes over four years; gives an annualised rate of ablation of 1T tonnes/4 = 250B tonnes per annum.
Use the accepted unit of measurement in the water cycle of cubic kilometres. One cu km is a cube 1000 metres along each edge. At 1 tonne per cu m a cu km contains 1B cu m or 1B tonnes of water. Thus 250B tonnes occupies 250B cu m, or 250 cu km.
Using the table in the UCAR site, Greenland ice amounts to 3,000,000 cu km. Ablation, calculated from figures supplied by you is 250 cu km annually. Expressed as a percentage (I’ll type slowly so you don’t get left behind):-
1. the number 3000000 is 100% – because it’s the output value of the task.
2 x is the value we need.
3. 100% equals 3000000, expressed as 100% = 3000000.
4. x% equals 250 of the output value, expressed as x% = 250.
5. Now, two simple equations:
1) 100% = 3000000
2) x% = 250
where left sides of both values have the same units, and both right sides have the same units
100%/x% = 3000000/250
6. Solution for 250 as a percentage of 3000000
100% /x%=3000000/250
(100/x)*x=(3000000/250)*x 100=12000*x
100/12000=x
0.0083333333333333=x
Annualised ice loss as a percentage of total Greenland ice is 0.0083 (recurring)%
Multiply by 4 (years), the time you supplied, gives 0.03332% of ice ablation over 4 years, as a percentage of total Greenland ice. Doesn’t sound as scary as 1 trillion though.
WP are scaremongering.
My original point was WP didn’t do the homework and pulled a scary number out of their arses as a scare tactic and used unrealistic data to make realistic comparison impossible. You parroted their phoney science. I invited you to do the math on scientifically verified data using the accepted system of measurement and point out any errors. You couldn’t. You responded with abuse. No actually you responded with abuse and a link to an (unscientific) National Geographic video, hardly a quality response to an intellectual challenge.
Now, you can critique my math if you wish and point out any errors. Also you can calculate how many millenia it will take to melt the entire ice cap at .0083% per annum.
Want the short and curlies back? You can crochet them into a nice thinking cap.
You’re getting cubic kilometres mixed up with cubic metres, or approx. tonnes.
And I think I’ve seen “your” math somewhere before haven’t I?
And btw, what abuse? Another ploy Wissy?
Your attempt to shift the focus to how long it would take is dubious anyway because the rate is going exponential is another red herring.
We’ll be long absent from the planet before the Greenland ice mass disappears.
I’ve not got anything mixed up. You are mathematically challenged. I did not offer an approximation of tonnes anywhere, I used the exact figure you supplied, 1 Trillion tonnes, and the exact time you supplied 4 years. If you think there’s an error in my conversion from cu metres to cubic km, state what the error is and on which line it is. You derided me for not supplying the ‘calculations’, which are just simple arithmetic, well there they are. If there’s an error, show us.
Ice doesn’t ablate at an expotential rate. What crap. It ablates according to surface temperature and surface area.
“Your” figures are based on imagination. AGW is going exponential. Don’t come the slippery eel with me Wissendorf.
What’s the big deal with Oprah, Jack? Won’t excite here, we’ve got Julie Bishop, who plays second fiddle to no-one AND knows her place. Behind Barnaby.
Carl on the Coast:
Re your 12.52 post. No dramas! I realised that 🙂
SBS put on about 3 hours last night of watching the Ghan ride the tracks btw Adelaide and Darwin. Unusual. Scant commentary and at times long stretches of zero sound at all –
thought my set ws broken!
Got a bit tedious so switched over to watch Nick Kyrgios play the Brisbane final – with some hesitation.
What can one say. The kid is brilliant when he feels like playing. He cpuld beat anyone in the world. Awesome shots played with a nonchalance that leave his opponent gobsmacked.
And his behaviour was exemplary. let’s hope he has turned the corner. stays injury free and achieves the ranking he is capable of.
The Ghan is a take off of a Norwegian concept. Same thing, a train speeding through the countryside. No dialogue or commentary and no ads. It was incredibly successful in Norway for reasons I am happy to say I do not understand.
Agree Jack. Norway might have more varied scenery? Not knocking it, but the outback can get pretty monotonous after an hour or more of the same thing on the TV screen!!
The appeal of long distance train travel is highly overacted…
Agree UQ! Having watched the Ghan thing at least I know I don’t ever want to go on it. :$
You said it UQ.
Two long days on the Rocky Mountaineer did my head in.
Rest of Canada simply sublime.
On my bucket list Bella – and Alaska
Maybe the Norwegians will watch anything to pass the time during the northern winter.
Jspare a thought for the people who actually pay a ransom to actually go on the Ghan Bo. There are stuck on the train for the duration. Clickity clack, won’t go back.
Except there’s no joins on the track and it doesn’t even do that
Too right Lou! Boring as……. Not even a roo, camel or dingo to be seen out the window ! They probably run a mile when they see the thing looming.
Geez what a bunch of grizzlers. You get a whole slab of time to read a book or two, a gift from the gods and yers whinge about it!
I took the train form Oslo to Bergen and back about 15 years ago. It was fantastic, and yes, I’ve relived it with those Youtube clips. It’s better in the ‘flesh’ but great to show people the odd highlight.
Some great rain rides in Europe – especially around the Swiss Alps – bloody sight more scenic and shorter!! After sitting on the Ghan and filming for forty something dreary hours I can’t believe that someone thought it may be interesting TV. A disaster for Ghan promotion…..
Took the Indian Pacific a few years ago from Sydney to Perth. Crossing the Nullabor was exactly as boring as you’d expect. When I wan’t asleep, I was in the bar car.
What I love about Left in this country is their total ability to spend other people’s money and their ability to ignore the impairment of other people’s live in pursuit of their one-eyed ideologies.
And when it is pointed out to them there is the usual refrain “Political beat up”
The problem with ideological cling ons is they simply are incapabale of making or supporting good decisions because their miserable political attachements get in the way. Ideology is a disease and you’ve got it bad.
Dutton stoking race fears. “no matter if the acting Victorian chief commissioner of police, Shane Patton, informs us otherwise (that there are no Sudanese gangs as such),” No Surprises.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/07/the-feared-other-peter-duttons-and-australias-pathology-around-race
Patton says otherwise actually but you keep bashing away.
coalition again caught out deliberately misleading the nation. No surprises.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/cooking-the-books-on-climate-change-policy-20171229-h0ba0h.html
“Omitted from the final public presentation are spreadsheets the department quietly released on a separate database a week before Christmas that shows Australia will be at least 140 million tonnes above its target by 2030 at the current rate of growth.”
Null and void, according to JB the human race will be extinct by 2027 anyway. Dasan madder!
Can you give us a month in 2027, please Mack. I’m not going to waste money on birthday presents unless I have to.
Milton you are simply an oxygen thief. gasp? No surprises.
Does this blog run on oxygen? You’re full of wind. Stick with what you know – cutting and pasting.
Ides of March.
Stick with me Milton, a seasoned desert rat like me will be one of the last ones to be affected by the heat, we can have a great time with the population dwindling. No more waiting 3 deep at the bar for a drink on Friday nights, plenty of empty houses to crash out in if we’re too legless to walk home or if there is a shortage of taxis, car in the garage to borrow next morning, not enough police for rbt and speed camera duties, a nice quiet anarchy will be the norm. Might have to shoot a cow or a sheep for food occasionally or run down a free range feral chook, but what the heck, it will be an adventure! Paleo diet here we come.
Sounds good, Mack i’m in.
Have I missed something? “International Idiots Day.”?
The cow and sheep will be nicely fattened up on a diet of gravel and sand one imagines.
“When the oceans die, we all die.” Paul Watson.
http://e360.yale.edu/features/how_long_can_oceans_continue_to_absorb_earths_excess_heat
Dismayed knows there’s too many herds in the paddocks and too many cars on the roads. But if the truth be known, bet he hasn’t given up on his regular rump steak or offloaded his gas-guzzling SUV. No surprises indeed.
Mack the Dinosaur I see you are happy for the government to mislead the nation as long as it fits into your myopic view of the world. you and are few others here really are anachronistic. No surprises.
Dismal, you have definitely had a sense of humour bypass, you wouldn’t recognise facetiousness if beaten over the head with it.
According to JB you too are a dinosaur, or maybe a dodo, soon to be extinct. Better get a life before it’s too late.
Happy 83rd Birthday today to Elvis Presley, Mr Insider. We fans know he’s not dead. That was a wax dummy they buried after his “death” on August 16th 1977.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzQ8GDBA8Is
Do we want multiculturalism or integration?
A small point: consider the cost of translating our benefit system into a multitude of different languages, and add on the interpreter’s. Does this happen in countries from whom we receive refugees? Are we in danger of losing all that makes us attractive to those that flee from repressive, intolerant, non-secular regimes??
“Integration” is a dirty word nowadays. My grandmother’s English was never good, and she was a highly educated woman. My American-born father arrived at Grade 1 not speaking English. Yet, at a time when few people went to university he attained a Master’s degree. Hell mate, I’ve even mostly assimilated into Australian culture and speak fluent ‘Strine,
You speak strine, strewth!
Its Stalk Strine…
goo.gl/ZdcnMm it is this sort of crime which causes community concern and telling people it is all a beat up is counter productive in my view.
I believe the figures quoted by the ABC are that a little over 40% of young offenders in Victoria are Aboriginal, Pacific Islander or East African, all small parts of the population, they also quoted 40% re offending on release.
I wouldn’t call that a crisis, but add it all together and it is evidence that we are getting some things wrong, and i think it is quite OK for the media to talk about it.
I also saw the Herald Sun front page that bagged the government because both the Premier and Deputy were on leave and the Police Minister wasn’t sure who was acting Premier.
A bit over the top as tabloid headlines often are, but it is a little strange that both the Premier and the Deputy are on leave at the same time.
Seems a bit odd given the separation of powers in this country. Does the Hun want its readers to think Andrews and his cabinet are sitting by a two way radio making command decisions for VicPol?
i have no idea what the Hun wants mate.
State governments get by on two or three competent Ministers, I don’t think four has ever been tried, and so no I don’t expect the Premier, and especially Ministers, to get involved in operational matters of any kind.
it is usual practice and sensible that, if the Premier was on leave the Deputy would be acting Premier, he might be at the races or the cricket, or spending time with his family, but one of them should be on call and available.
Watched some tennis last night and learned that Queensland has a minister called Grace Grace.
Why do parents do that?
She’s not into sartorial elegance – that’s for sure.
Goodness gracious, wouldn’t want to attend a meal with her, even if it was amazing.